Friday, September 25, 2009

(Revisions are in red) with apologies

Post 3
Numbers based on nationality in Singapore
1 Vietnamese : 2,450
2 Thais :2,600(2150)
3 Filipinas : 2,010
4 PRCs 1,750
5 Indonesians 1,193(1160)
6 Singaporeans 1,100
7 Malaysians 984(950)
8 South Asians 483(450)
9 Others : 640 (includes 250 in Geylang and Orchard Towers)
Total : 13,210(12660)
(Revisions are in red) with apologies
Post 2
Numbers based on nationality in the different places
( Vietnamese prostitutes dominates the pubs and KTVs in Geylang followed by Thais and PRCs)1 Geylang
Vietnamese : 850
Thai girls: 850 (Mostly controlled in groups by pimps and stand in dark areas in lorongs, in dark lanes and alleys and fish tanks)
PRCs : 850 (About half are controlled by pimps, congregate mostly in exposed, open and brightly lit, popular areas
Indonesians : 400( Controlled by pimps and operate in dark back lanes or alleys. The brightest areas they operate in are Jalan Suka and Talmar Road)
South Asians mainly Indians: 350 (Controlled by pimps. Operate in darkest lanes as well)Others : 200
Total : 3,500
2 Orchard Towers
Filipinas : 680
Thais : 200
Vietnamese : 200
Indonesians : 80
Others ( Indians etc) : 40
Total : 1,200
3 Joo Chiat
Vietnamese : 1,000
Total : 1,000
Others : Negligible
4 Golden Mile Thai discos
Thais : 500(400)
Total : 500(400)
5 Desker Road and Flaunders' Square
Malaysians : 134(100)
South Asians mainly Indians : 133(100)
Indonesians and others : 133(100)
Total : 400 (300)
6 Forested areas and mobile dens
Thais : 500 (150)
Total : 500 (150)
7 Tanjong Pagar/ Duxton pubs and nearby areas
Filipinas : 300
Thais : 100
Indonesians : 100
Total :500
8 East Coast Road pubs :
Filipinas : 400
Total : 400
9. Big massage parlours elsewhere in Singapore
Malaysians : 450
PRCs : 200
Thais : 150
Vietnamese : 100
Indonesians : 100
Singaporeans : 100
Total : 1,10010.
Small massage parlours elsewhere in Singapore
PRCs : 300
Thais : 100
Vietnamese : 100
Filipinas : 50
Total : 550
11. Moonlightlighting maids
Indonesians : 230
Filipinas : 230
Total : 460
12. Other areas in Pubs, KTVs, nite-clubs, and social escort services and ad-hoc services
PRCs : 400
Filipinas : 350
Malaysians : 400
Vietnamese : 200
Thais : 200
Indonesians : 150
Singaporeans (Malay, Chinese, Eurasians, , Indians): 1,000 ( mostly in nite-clubs, social escort and ad-hoc services)
Total : 2,700
(Revisions are in red) with apologiesIn this post, I will ESTIMATE the total number of prostitutes and the number of prostitutes on an average day in different places in Singapore AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. In a next post, I estimate the number of prostitutes based on nationalities in each of these places. The third post shows the total number of prostitutes for each nationality in Singapore. Throughout the posts, a prostitute is defined as a woman who offer sexual intercourse for money at least once and intends to do so again. 'Others' refers to those groups not mentioned in each category.Numbers based on areas and/or entertainment niches1 Geylang : 3,5002 Orchard Towers and surrounding areas: 1,2003 Joo Chiat :10004 Golden Mile Thai discos : 500 (400)5 Areas around Desker Road and Flaunders Square : 400 (300)6 Forested areas and mobile dens: 500(150)7 Tanjong Pagar/ Duxton's pubs and nearby areas : 5008 East Coast Road pubs : 4009 Big massage parlours elsewhere in Singapore : 1,10010 Small massage parlours elsewhere in Singapore : 55011. Moonlightlighting maids : 46012 Other areas in Pubs, KTVs, nite-clubs, and social escort services and ad-hoc services: 2,70013 Others left out : 400Total no of prostitutes in Singapore on an average day : 13,210(12660)

Wednesday, February 4, 2009

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Building on its history of prostitution and triads, this red light district has evolved into a mini United Nations of sorts.SEVERAL Singaporean housewives, as strait-laced and as prim-and-proper as they came, surprised me recently when they proposed to organise a bus tour of the city's hot sex-spot."We've heard so much about Geylang and we want to see it," said a retired teacher. Would I - being a know-it-all journalist - be the guide? she asked to the applause of all.The tour hasn't taken place yet but given the curiosity of these friends, I'm pretty sure one day it will.These are half a dozen of the society's most conservative senior citizens, some of them church-going grandmothers. So what propelled them to want to visit the capital of Singapore's sex industry?The place is not only renowned for its women but also for the hawker delicacies that have added up to make it a potential tourist icon.Geylang has a known history of prostitution and triads. But it has been expanded into a more sophisticated business and becoming more international.It is bringing in a small army of men looking for sex and food, as well as a fair mix of foreign and local tourists.I've lost count of the number of foreign friends who have insisted that I take them there. At one time, it was Chinatown. Now it's Geylang! They absolutely feel they must see it.The evolution is by itself, and the crowds were not the result of any tourism drive. Yet this 2km stretch has become one of South-East Asia's top red-light districts.The area's fame - or notoriety - is something that this conservative city had never planned for, but like it or not, it seems to be flourishing.Every night hundreds - if not thousands - of women speaking a cackle of languages from all over Asia ply the world's oldest profession from 8pm to the pre-dawn hours.Prostitution is legal, but controlled, in Singapore (unlike even in fun-loving Thailand, where it is banned). Soliciting and pimping, however, are illegal.Of the half a dozen areas designated for the sex trade, Geylang is the biggest and most colourful.I have reported many cities in Asia, but none can boast of a red-light zone comparable to Geylang's multi-racial and multiple culture diversity."In which other country can you find thousands of women from seven or eight different countries gathered together, working side by side on the streets," asked a retired Asian journalist."It's like a mini-United Nations. There's nothing that Bangkok, or any other sex city, has that we don't have here."I think I know what he meant. A visitor to Bangkok can find Thai prostitutes, or when in Shenzhen encounter Chinese sex ladies.But it is only in Geylang, on the south-central part of Singapore, that can one see so many nationalities working in the sex trade in one spot.Recently, a web-blogger filmed three of the streets - Lanes 8, 10, 12 - and posted them for public viewing.They showed large groups of women standing almost shoulder to shoulder in some places, smiling at the parade of men passing by.Many carry a yellow health card, and must report in "regularly" for medical checks.The government doesn't encourage it, but allows it out of a social need. There are 1.2 million foreign workers living here without their wives.Geylang is not to everyone's liking. The conservative citizenry condemns it and wants it closed. Residents in the area worry about security for their women and loss of value for their homes.There is no denying that it has stirred a great deal of interest and curiosity far and near.From this pragmatic beginning, a new industry, one of the few that the current recession has not affected, is spawning.Some curious neighbours come here just to have a look and to try out the Geylang food.Restaurants dot the landscape dominated by budget hotels and "love nests" - S$20 (RM48) for two hours - and hawker stalls.Massage parlours with two-way mirrors and pink-coloured lights measure up well to those on Bangkok's Sukhumvit Road.The girls come from China, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, India, Sri Lanka and even as far away as Croatia and the Czech Republic.Like in other fields, Geylang's sex trade (from Lorong 6 to Lorong 30) is dominated by women from China, who make up the largest number.They are managed by Chinese pimps. At Lorong 15, small groups of Bangladeshi women walk the beat under the watchful eyes of their countrymen.And as Geylang prepares for the Lunar New Year, a local newspaper columnist wrote last week: "The first appearance of street buskers in Geylang brought out an enthusiastic crowd behind me and across the street."The talented PRC (China) man in white sang with a karaoke set while his equally skilful companion in blue performed an exotic folk dance."Later, an eccentric old Ang Moh (Caucasian) handed his can of beer to someone and joined in. A police car cruised by."This then is today's Geylang. One young Singaporean man blogged recently: "Everything I need is in Geylang. I need nothing else."With the economy entering a dire era, some exuberant observers see a possibility of prostitution one day being recognised as a service profession, like in Amsterdam, where the women have to pay tax.And presumably the customer will have to pay GST (Goods and Service Tax)."If this squeaky clean city can legalise casino gambling, why not prostitution?" argued a photographer. "At any rate it's only one step from Geylang!"Source : Asiaone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boWCAPM_cb8http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread...=15748&page=76 Watch Post 754 in this thread. "And as Geylang prepares for the Lunar New Year, a local newspaper columnist wrote last week: 'The first appearance of street buskers in Geylang brought out an enthusiastic crowd behind me and across the street.'The talented PRC (China) man in white sang with a karaoke set while his equally skilful companion in blue performed an exotic folk dance.'Later, an eccentric old Ang Moh (Caucasian) handed his can of beer to someone and joined in. A police car cruised by.' "The STAR/ANN and Seah Chiang Nee is grossly INACCURATE in this article. Even with regard to the above post which appears in Asiaone right now, http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%...01-118591.html, I am the writer and yet the article claimed it was written by a local newspaper columnist. http://sgfrag.net/2008/11/17/in-praise-of-prostitutes/http://www.jialat.com/2008/11/17/in-...f-prostitutes/http://ping.sg/read/In-Praise-of-Prostitutes-2
The first appearance of street buskers in Geylang, last night brought out an enthusiastic crowd behind the camera and across the street. The talented PRC man in white sang with a karaoke set while his equally skilful companion in blue performed an exotic folk dance. Later, an eccentric old Ang Moh handed his can of beer to someone and joined in. A police car cruised by.Geylang continues to evolve because of the presence of hookers. Will it become even more exciting and cultural in future? Since the prostitutes came, businesses have boomed. May the arts follow!
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Re: In Praise of Prostitutes - 16-12-2008, 08:29 AM
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IN Geylang, PRC girls are generally (not always) a class above the rest. Generally, they are entrepreneurial, uncompromising on condoms, clean, intelligent, tall, fair and beautiful. That is the reason that we see them in brightly lit areas like where you mentioned whereas girls of other nationalities tend to crowd in dark lanes. And that's why they have the confidence to walk the streets. It all boil down to demand and guts. Where there is demand, there will be supply. Other than Vietnamese girls, they command the highest price.However, sadly success is always double-edged. It breeds unhappiness in those who are affected and attract unnecessary attention. This has led to an unlikely union of disparate groups who hound them down regularly as though they are the also group involved in the flesh trade in Singapore.I reproduce below what I wrote earlier after a few fact-finding missions.Salient Points1. Prostitutes in Geylang are categorised by nationality and placed in order from the highest ratio of prostitutes to men of the same race( includes foreign and Singaporean males) in Singapore - to the lowest. So, while prostitutes are by nationality, customers and potential customers are by race. It could be seen from the table that PRC prostitutes constitute the 2nd smallest percentage of prostitutes to males of the same race while the Indian prostitutes constitute the smallest.2. As the world is facing a recession, Indian prostitutes offer the best saving.3. As PRC prostitutes operate in brightly lit and popular areas in Geylang and are spread out sparsely and are tall and fair-skinned, we have the impression Geylang is all about PRC prostitutes. These girls are mostly found in odd number lorongs.4. Even number lorongs and the dark back lanes are packed tight with girls and their customers unlike odd number lorongs. Most non-Chinese girls operate here although they are also in the odd no lorongs ; hence there are many more non-Chinese prostitutes than thought of. 5. Vietnamese girls in Geylang dominate the main road of Geylang from Lor 6 to Paya Lebar Road and the brightly lit back lanes parallel to it and inside the numerous pubs. Hence, my suspicion that they may be the most in absolute numbers.6. Other than the 5 major groups, prostitutes of other nationalities are not included because their numbers are too small. In fact, Filipinas, Columbians, Black Africans and Myammarese girls have been found working in Geylang as well.7. Indian men often prefer non-Indian girls ( and don't mind paying more for them ) than their own girls ; otherwise there will be more Indian prostitutes in Singapore and they will command higher prices.Legend (The higher no given to a symbol denotes a higher value. For example, R5 shows that Vietnamese prostitutes have the highest estimated prostitutes to men of the same race in Singapore.)R : Estimated ratio of prostitutes by nationality to men of the same race, regardless of nationality in Singapore, where 5 is highest and 1 is lowest.Pr : Estimated price , where 5 is highest and 1 is lowest.A : Absolute numbers, where 5 is highest and 1 is lowest.Po : Popularity where 5 is highest and 1 is lowest.R5 --- Vietnamese prostitutes --- Pr 5 ( Av $80 to $150 without room) --- Geylang Rd from PL to Lor 6 (both sides) esp Lor 44 to 42 , 28 to 26, PL to 37, back lanes parallel to Geylang from PL to 42 and PL to 37, inside most clubs as well and other back lanes --- Customers of all races esp Chinese youths --- Po 4 --- A5.R4 --- Thai girls --- Pr 3 (Av $50) --- all over main Geylang Road (both sides) esp Lor 22 to 16/Geylang, Lor 6/Geylang, back lanes , Westherhout Road, fish tanks along Lor 6 and 18 --- Customers of all races including Indians, Japanese and Ang Mohs ---Po3 ---A3R3 --- Indonesian lasses --- Pr 2 ( Av 30) --- all over Geylang Road from Lor 24A to Lor 6 esp Lor 22 to 18/Geylang, 6/Geylang, Talmar Road, Jalan Suka, Jalan Molek, the dark back lanes ; can be found Lor 4/Guillemard, Lor 15 --- mostly Malay men, Indian and Bangladeshis, some Chinese --- Po2 --- A2R2 --- PRC girls( 2nd lowest percentage of girls by nationality to men by race) --- Pr 4 ( Av $70) --- in popular, brightly lit areas of Geylang, spread out sparsely, mostly in odd no lorongs --- customers are mainly Chinese but include other races and nationalities --- Po 5 ---A4.R1 --- Sari clad Indian girls --- Pr 1 ( Av 20 including room) --- can be seen at Geylang Road with Indian men but mostly in Lors 24A, 24, 22, 18, 16 and 21 and in the dark and darkest back lanes from Lor 24A to 14 ( Sri Lankans in skirts at Lor 4 and 15) --- only Indian customers as Indian men shun their own kind.--- situation may improve if Bollywood looking types make their appearance --- Po1 ---A1.Impressive! Is this part of your research for a doctoral disseration?


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Re: In Praise of Prostitutes - 16-12-2008, 09:43 AM
Hats off to Rraymond (if you are the original author) for coming up with such a comprehensive report which contains not only solid data, but also convincing methodology! This sets the bar very high for my next research paper
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Wednesday, December 17, 2008

In Praise of Prostitutes - 09-11-2008, 09:43 AM
It is easier to contract STDs and AIDS from sex with acquaintances than with prostitutes. This is because one tends to be mindful of the need to be careful and to use condoms with prostitutes unlike the carelessness and abandon one has during sex with an acquaintance.

Prostitutes provide an essential service ; often, it is not only sexual release but also the companionship that she offers. One famous writer has written that if not for a prostitute, he would have gone mad after his divorce.

And, once again I say that prostitutes have been driven underground by society's holier than thou attitude. Prostitutes don't cheat - unlike co_ck teasers. (They give what they promised). They don't break up families - unlike girlfriends. In fact, they help hold families together, help keep sodomy and bestiality at bay, help prevent lechery and help prevent rapes.

Prostitutes are direct and more honest than most people. In this sense, lawyers are worse than prostitutes. Many categories of priestigious and highly paid professionals are worse than prostitutes. And everyone now knows that fat cat bankers are worse than prostitutes.

She walks towards the streets. Each face holds
Signs of death and marks of woe
Bored with life, sapped by regrets.
She must do it or she is dead.

She will promise, happiness her ware
Ward off remarks and piercing stares
Risk her life and hope for the best
Tonight she has no time for hypocrisy.

She knows someone who wanted to be rich.
But she wishes she need not do it.
Yet she cannot tell of her sacrifice
For those who will curse her and pretend they never met.

Don't think of tomorrow, hold the dollars you need.
The happy faces and vibrant crowds are indeed
Drawn to the world you help create.
Who says she breaks up families?

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